Comments on: Musalad Losing Identity http://www.livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html Anything and everything to do with Zimbabwe and it's people Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:46:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Anonymous http://www.livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html/comment-page-1#comment-65 Anonymous Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:38:00 +0000 http://livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html#comment-65 I went to a former Group A junior schools, then forms- 1 4, kuboarding yekumusha, and came to a former Group A school for my As. Junior, school, I was coming from a former Group B school, and was seen as an outsider initially,and then after years of being forced to speak only in English, the accent changed somewhat and I was more or less one of them...This made me different at the boarding school, but I was not discriminated against in any way- if anything at all, there were elements of envy- for my part I didn't just speak Prospero's well, but I was a Caliban who had learnt to curse in quite well in in written form...<br/><br/>A' level, this a former Group A school in its truest sense, only a handful of non- Blacks remained, while the rest had fled to private schools, and coming from the schools we were coming from we were seen as invaders, who were killing the long- held traditions the school had had...<br/><br/>By then I had a problem with that mentality, and I guess that is where the whole question of identity crisis comes in...You might have many white friends, are familiar with many white customs and traditions but you are not white and the kind of flake we took for not upholding white values was misplaced, misdirected and tragically unfortunate.<br/><br/>do Jews lose their Jewishness, Indians, their Indianness, etc? Beyond the superficial difference of accents if people can connect around certain core values,hunhu,etc, which make up African identity, despite certain differences, then bye- bye the "class" induced conflicts engendered by accents...<br/><br/>The pathology of self hatred that afflicts anyone, whether a musalala or SRB, or gives rise to tensions between, the two, that is the enemy in need of defeat, and the wound that needs healing I went to a former Group A junior schools, then forms- 1 4, kuboarding yekumusha, and came to a former Group A school for my As. Junior, school, I was coming from a former Group B school, and was seen as an outsider initially,and then after years of being forced to speak only in English, the accent changed somewhat and I was more or less one of them…This made me different at the boarding school, but I was not discriminated against in any way- if anything at all, there were elements of envy- for my part I didn’t just speak Prospero’s well, but I was a Caliban who had learnt to curse in quite well in in written form…

A’ level, this a former Group A school in its truest sense, only a handful of non- Blacks remained, while the rest had fled to private schools, and coming from the schools we were coming from we were seen as invaders, who were killing the long- held traditions the school had had…

By then I had a problem with that mentality, and I guess that is where the whole question of identity crisis comes in…You might have many white friends, are familiar with many white customs and traditions but you are not white and the kind of flake we took for not upholding white values was misplaced, misdirected and tragically unfortunate.

do Jews lose their Jewishness, Indians, their Indianness, etc? Beyond the superficial difference of accents if people can connect around certain core values,hunhu,etc, which make up African identity, despite certain differences, then bye- bye the “class” induced conflicts engendered by accents…

The pathology of self hatred that afflicts anyone, whether a musalala or SRB, or gives rise to tensions between, the two, that is the enemy in need of defeat, and the wound that needs healing

]]> By: Kojak http://www.livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html/comment-page-1#comment-64 Kojak Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:08:00 +0000 http://livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html#comment-64 Gerri....I think people are influenced mostly by who they hang around with most of the times and age as well. It's easy when you are young for you accent to change.<br/><br/>If I take my son, his accent is so much different because he spends his time in an English speaking school. Ndivo vave kunoza shona......but I wouldn't call him musalad.<br/><br/>But some people do take it over the top. <br/><br/>Unfortunate what you had to go through in your early days at boarding school. You reminded me of one guy who was at the boarding school I went to and had done his primary education in UK.<br/><br/>Not easy from London to boarding school in Mrewa Gerri….I think people are influenced mostly by who they hang around with most of the times and age as well. It’s easy when you are young for you accent to change.

If I take my son, his accent is so much different because he spends his time in an English speaking school. Ndivo vave kunoza shona……but I wouldn’t call him musalad.

But some people do take it over the top.

Unfortunate what you had to go through in your early days at boarding school. You reminded me of one guy who was at the boarding school I went to and had done his primary education in UK.

Not easy from London to boarding school in Mrewa

]]> By: sanimoyo http://www.livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html/comment-page-1#comment-63 sanimoyo Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:42:00 +0000 http://livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html#comment-63 I am from Zimbabwe, not salad, this is an interesting post and love your blog, the accent in the embedded video is not really the zim salad accent if I must say. I am from Zimbabwe, not salad, this is an interesting post and love your blog, the accent in the embedded video is not really the zim salad accent if I must say.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html/comment-page-1#comment-62 Anonymous Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:13:00 +0000 http://livingzimbabwe.com/2008/10/musalad-losing-identity.html#comment-62 INTERESTING!!!! I went to all private schools, hang around all races but no one really labeled me as having an identity crisis. I think the thing with most of us private schooled people or masalad as you may refer to us is, "we don't know when to switch off the musalad act - there's a time and place for everything. I know that sometimes you oblivious to the fact that you're acting like that but if you go to kumusha and refuse to drink the water there because you think it's dirty or maybe you ask for a "SALAD" then you have major problems, you're not being mindful, just bluntly arrogant, your mother should have taught you better. Any who I'm sorry that you experienced such discrimination, my advise to you would be "try to fit in, blend in, know your place, be mindful, and know who you are!" As for the video, LOL! Some people especially those with strong rural backgrounds (as you call it) think its cool kunoza shona - it's just plan ridiculous. I know a few people like that, they actually like being called a munozi. I sum them up with a few words, lack of self confidence, embarrassed of their heritage, they need help. I like the post keep up the good work. INTERESTING!!!! I went to all private schools, hang around all races but no one really labeled me as having an identity crisis. I think the thing with most of us private schooled people or masalad as you may refer to us is, “we don’t know when to switch off the musalad act – there’s a time and place for everything. I know that sometimes you oblivious to the fact that you’re acting like that but if you go to kumusha and refuse to drink the water there because you think it’s dirty or maybe you ask for a “SALAD” then you have major problems, you’re not being mindful, just bluntly arrogant, your mother should have taught you better. Any who I’m sorry that you experienced such discrimination, my advise to you would be “try to fit in, blend in, know your place, be mindful, and know who you are!” As for the video, LOL! Some people especially those with strong rural backgrounds (as you call it) think its cool kunoza shona – it’s just plan ridiculous. I know a few people like that, they actually like being called a munozi. I sum them up with a few words, lack of self confidence, embarrassed of their heritage, they need help. I like the post keep up the good work.

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